MOXY FRUVOUS co-founder and GREAT BIG SEA bassist MURRAY FOSTER has a new project , called THE COCKSURE LADS. Conceived back in the Fruvous days with his then bandmate MIKE FORD, The Lads started life as fictional sixties also-rans in the vein of HERMAN’S HERMITS, but -following the release late last year of their excellent greatest hits (fakest hits?) compilation- have evolved into something much bigger.

This week, Foster and a small team of helpers (Jody included, along with EMILY ANDREWS and BENEDICTE WIGGET) launched their KICKSTARTER campaign in an effort to raise money for the production of the film about The Lads, You Gotta Stay Cocksure!

Here, we ask Murray some hard questions:

You were a founding member of iconic Canadian band Moxy Fruvous; after that broke up, you joined another iconic Canadian band, Great Big Sea. How did all that turn into a burgeoning career as screenwriter and director?

Funny enough, my music career and my ‘burgeoning film career’ are completely separate. I’d written a couple short plays over the last few years, and Emily Andrews (now the Cocksure Lads film producer) needed some short scripts for Filmcoop (her film co-operative) to film. So I started writing a few more short scripts, and then started directing those films, which gave me to confidence to write and direct the Cocksure Lads film. And separate from THAT, the Cocksure Lads had gone from just-for-fun side project, to CD, to music video, to short film, to feature film. So it was a very strange convergence of two completely different streams.

The idea for The Cocksure Lads came while you and (co-founder) Mike Ford were still in Moxy Fruvous. Can you tell us how it happened?

In 1990, when Fruvous was only a year old and we were still just a busking band, I wrote a song called “That’s Any Good” (which is now on the Cocksure Lads album) that was a loving parody of early 60’s Britpop, that twitty era of Herman’s Hermits and Jerry and the Pacemakers. I loved (and love) those bands and that era, as did Mike. So we both just started writing songs which parodied that genre. Eventually we called this ‘fake’ band The Cocksure Lads, and started developing the band’s history and members. And then finally in 2009 we had about 25 Cocksure Lads songs, so we went into the studio and recorded “The Greatest Hits of the Cocksure Lads.”

Were any of the songs you wrote for The Lads ever absorbed by Fruvous?

Fruvous played “That’s Any Good” live for three or four years, and then it dropped off the setlist. (NOTE: Listen to Moxy Fruvous do That’s Any Good HERE.) I think that’s the only one Fruvous ever played, although there were a number of Cocksure tunes kicking around at that time.

How did the project go from a bit of a lark, to a full-blown movie?

I guess, to pick up the story from the earlier answer, we recorded the CD in 2010 and sent a copy to our friend in New York, Danny Ameri – the guy who actually came up with the name “The Cocksure Lads” (and gave it to us). Danny owns a video production company in NYC, and immediately started talking about shooting a video for one of the songs. That discussion turned into shooting a short film, which we did in the fall of 2011, and shortly thereafter we all realized we should just go for it and try to make a feature. Which brings us to today…

The history of The Lads says that they existed in the sixties, but the movie takes place in the current; what brought about the change?

The history of The Lads says that they existed in the sixties, but the movie takes place in the current; what brought about the change?

I debated that very thing with myself for quite a while. The Cocksure Lads are VERY 60’s, so the most natural thing to do would have been to set the movie in the 60’s. But I decided to set the movie in the present for a couple reasons – first, because it would be expensive to try to recreate the sets and costumes and cars of the 60’s, and we had no budget, but moreso because I felt like we’ve all seen that movie before, the one that centres around the music of the 60’s and lovingly tries to recreate that era. It just felt fresher to set the movie in the present, so that the movie could be something original rather than trying to copy (or trying NOT to copy) A Hard Day’s Night.

Are the songs going to be any different than they are on The Cocksure Lads album? More contemporary, for example, or are the movie Lads going to be a bit of revivalist type of band?

No, we’re going to use the recordings from the album in the movie. That’s another thing that appealed to me – that the Lads have a sound that’s retro to the point of being authentically 60’s, and yet that’s never commented upon. Again, it made the whole thing feel fresher and never-seen-before.

I’m guessing A Hard Day’s Night and The Monkees’ TV show, but what other movies are influencing You Gotta Stay Cocksure?

You guessed it right with Hard Day’s Night! The other movie we keep referencing for clues about how to make our movie is Across The Universe, the 2007 movie that weaves a narrative out of Beatles’ songs. Our movie will have eight songs and videos in it, so we watched that movie to figure out how to incorporate songs into a narrative. How do you get in and out of the song? Do you use the whole song? Hard Day’s Night has music, but it’s unrelated to the narrative of the movie.

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